If James can figure out how to get Groovy integrated with Eclipse so that Eclipse can refactor Groovy code, that would give Groovy a nice lift -- but I'm getting ahead of myself here. I did a little playing with Groovy during this month's SeaJUG presentation, and in the course of doing it discovered a bug. So there's still quite a bit of work to do, but I'm still excited about what I see and what the potential is. Today's comment from Dan Weinreb is well taken, and my interest in Groovy is precisely because of some of the points that he made. It's not every day that an old time Lisp hacker stops by the blog.