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This entry on The Unofficial Apple Weblog, contains two interesting links. There's a link to a News.com article that says a new TOS is in the works. The second link is to eWeek and includes an attorney's take on the wording of the current TOS. Assuming there actually is a TOS change, that give a temporary repreive.
But back to Jabber/XMPP, which is really the important issue here. Peter Saint-Andre has summarized a lot of the blog stuff on Jabber in relation to the AOL thing. In regard to my posting, he said:
I agree, except that it's always the time to push for greater Jabber adoption. :-)
The reason that I wrote my post is that people that are entrenched in an existing system need a reason to get off. Sometimes they need a shock to the system (Thomas Barnett would call this a 'System Perturbation') in order to wake them up. The AOL flipflap provides such an event. The question is, will the energy created by this get channelled into usable Jabber clients, reliable and scalable Jabber server software, and trustable Jabber services? Peter's closing comment gives me hope.
There is much to agree with in the concerns expressed by people who want to adopt Jabber technologies for IM: we need friendlier clients, more reliable servers, stronger security, better identity management (vCard++), easier ways to find people on the network, and more straightforward user-registration features. We need to focus on these priorities and deliver software that solves the problems with existing codebases. So as always that means rolling up our sleeves and getting back to work.
There's one other thing that's needed. I need a list of recommended clients, servers, and hosts running trustworthy Jabber servers. If I'm going to start telling people in my buddy list that they need to switch to Jabber, I need to be able to tell them which download link to click, and what to put in for their server id.
Right now, my list looks like this:
Clients:
Mac OS X: Adium
Linux: gaim
Windows: ?
Server software:
?
Jabber server:
jabber.org
Suggestions/improvements for this list welcome, but I'm only interested in having one entry in each category. Leave a comment.
As to a server, I have accounts on both jabber.org and jabber.com, and alternate between whichever seems more solid on-the-day.
Posted by Frank Horowitz at Tue Mar 15 01:28:51 2005
Although newer versions tend to be "overfeatured" and too mouse-dependent.
Posted by zgoda at Tue Mar 15 01:39:54 2005
Miranda is opensource stable enough and realy cute.
Posted by andrej at Tue Mar 15 02:17:16 2005
Posted by blinker at Tue Mar 15 04:41:56 2005
Posted by Luis Villa at Tue Mar 15 05:22:59 2005
Posted by Peter Millard at Tue Mar 15 08:28:47 2005
Posted by Andy Todd at Wed Mar 16 00:09:37 2005
My recommendation would be Psi, though a lot of people seem to be swearing by Gossip these days (haven't tried it, personally.)
On Windows, I would be torn between recommending Psi and recommending Pandion. Pandion is good for people who are more familiar with MSN, whereas Psi seems to be closer in operation to ICQ. It really depends where the user came from, I think.
Posted by Trejkaz at Wed Mar 16 05:28:46 2005
Mac OS X: Adium
Linux: Gossip
Windows: a toss-up between Psi and Miranda
Server software:
Jive Messenger
Jabber server:
jabber.org
I've not yet used a version of GAIM on Windows which doesn't suffer from bugs present in the Windows port of GTK, for Linux it's fine.
Posted by Phil Wilson at Sat Mar 19 15:24:22 2005
Posted by Ed Hager at Tue Mar 22 11:25:35 2005
To insert a URI, just type it -- no need to write an anchor tag.
Allowable html tags are:
<a href>
, <em>
, <i>
, <b>
, <blockquote>
, <br/>
, <p>
, <code>
, <pre>
, <cite>
, <sub>
and <sup>
.You can also use some Wiki style:
URI => [uri title]
<em> => _emphasized text_
<b> => *bold text*
Ordered list => consecutive lines starting spaces and an asterisk