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Wed, 09 Mar 2005
Instructions for Recruiters
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There is an e-mail link on the right side of this blog.
If you are a recruiter, here are some things you should know before you click on it:
- I'm not looking for a new position at this time.
- I don't give out my resume when I'm not looking.
- This blog has much more information about me than my 2 page resume.
- Reading the blog before you click is likely to earn you a much warmer reception.
I appreciate your interest. Thanks for reading this.
Ha ha - excellent ploy Ted :-)). How to pretend you're not looking for a job.
I realize of course that you are serious and I am only joking. Of course the hidden truth is the fact that it is next to impossible to use a weblog to actually look for a job if you are - because of course your employer probably reads every word :-)
(BTW: Will you be at the OSBC conference by chance? If so then let me know and I'll come up and say hi)
Matthew
Posted by Matthew Langham at Wed Mar 9 03:06:08 2005
I realize of course that you are serious and I am only joking. Of course the hidden truth is the fact that it is next to impossible to use a weblog to actually look for a job if you are - because of course your employer probably reads every word :-)
(BTW: Will you be at the OSBC conference by chance? If so then let me know and I'll come up and say hi)
Matthew
Posted by Matthew Langham at Wed Mar 9 03:06:08 2005
Life for recruiters must be really hard. The candidates promising a quick hire/bounty are hardly on the open market.
1. I suspect that the term "I'm not looking for a new position at this time." Isn't part of their mindset.
2. Failing to parse the previous term, they semantically fail to link this information in.
3. Likely due to a constant lack of time recruiters are as likely to really look at what you do and who you are, as they are likely to read a programms you wrote or call up people who know you.
4. See point 3
Posted by Florian Bösch at Wed Mar 9 05:40:17 2005
1. I suspect that the term "I'm not looking for a new position at this time." Isn't part of their mindset.
2. Failing to parse the previous term, they semantically fail to link this information in.
3. Likely due to a constant lack of time recruiters are as likely to really look at what you do and who you are, as they are likely to read a programms you wrote or call up people who know you.
4. See point 3
Posted by Florian Bösch at Wed Mar 9 05:40:17 2005
Ted:
I'm curious about why you don't keep your resume up when you're not job hunting?
1) If you don't have it up, you might inadvertently miss a cool opportunity.
2) When you do put it up, it's a signal to your employer that you're out there, looking.
Posted by Joe Grossberg at Wed Mar 9 11:37:43 2005
I'm curious about why you don't keep your resume up when you're not job hunting?
1) If you don't have it up, you might inadvertently miss a cool opportunity.
2) When you do put it up, it's a signal to your employer that you're out there, looking.
Posted by Joe Grossberg at Wed Mar 9 11:37:43 2005
Matthew,
I know for a fact that my employer and many of my co-workers read my blog. At the moment I have a great situation and the only way I can imagine leaving is if something fatal were to happen to OSAF.
Unfortunately, I will not be at OSBC this year, but I would love to meet you some time -- I've been enjoying your blog. I will be at OSCON in August if you will be there.
Florian,
I know most of that. The posting was prompted by one recruiter too many. I will note that I have dealt with recruiters that actually have built up a relationship with me, and that I think that relationships like that are very valuable. Even if I am not looking, I do have friends, and being able to help them is one reason I do speak to recruiters that approach me out of the blue. But I am selective about the kinds of recruiters that I want to have relationships with. If the initial contact demands my resume and 3 professional references, the recruiter hasn't made the cut.
Joe,
I didn't say I don't keep up my resume. I said I don't give it out. If I am happy with my job (and I am right now), then a recruiter has to convince me to look at their opportunity, not be beating me up to get my resume.
Posted by Ted Leung at Wed Mar 9 22:06:27 2005
I know for a fact that my employer and many of my co-workers read my blog. At the moment I have a great situation and the only way I can imagine leaving is if something fatal were to happen to OSAF.
Unfortunately, I will not be at OSBC this year, but I would love to meet you some time -- I've been enjoying your blog. I will be at OSCON in August if you will be there.
Florian,
I know most of that. The posting was prompted by one recruiter too many. I will note that I have dealt with recruiters that actually have built up a relationship with me, and that I think that relationships like that are very valuable. Even if I am not looking, I do have friends, and being able to help them is one reason I do speak to recruiters that approach me out of the blue. But I am selective about the kinds of recruiters that I want to have relationships with. If the initial contact demands my resume and 3 professional references, the recruiter hasn't made the cut.
Joe,
I didn't say I don't keep up my resume. I said I don't give it out. If I am happy with my job (and I am right now), then a recruiter has to convince me to look at their opportunity, not be beating me up to get my resume.
Posted by Ted Leung at Wed Mar 9 22:06:27 2005
After I read this post of yours, I got a similar offer in my inbox! I wrote about it in my blog.
- Swaroop
www.swaroopch.info
Posted by Swaroop C H at Wed Mar 9 22:50:36 2005
- Swaroop
www.swaroopch.info
Posted by Swaroop C H at Wed Mar 9 22:50:36 2005
Not all recruiters are after your head! A good recruiter tries to develop a relationship with good people so that they understand what the person is looking for in a career move. If done in an honest manner, then the recruiter has a chance to make some money when the "right" job appears for the person who is looking.
It is not my intent to move people around with a "commodity" mentality like some recruiters have developed. My business deals with people not "human capital" as some inhuman resources people would like to call you.
Posted by Tom Michael - recruiter at Mon Mar 14 07:16:53 2005
It is not my intent to move people around with a "commodity" mentality like some recruiters have developed. My business deals with people not "human capital" as some inhuman resources people would like to call you.
Posted by Tom Michael - recruiter at Mon Mar 14 07:16:53 2005
I'm sure good recruiters exist, just like I'm sure good managers and venture capitalists with principles exist. Its just I've never met one. Seriously, the last recruiter I was dealing with was totally annoying, and even worse, annoyed the hiring manager as well.
Posted by Derek at Wed Mar 16 21:38:16 2005
Posted by Derek at Wed Mar 16 21:38:16 2005
Ok, why does the previous commenter's link point back to the Amarillo Grain Exchange? Weird.
Posted by Derek at Wed Mar 16 21:40:43 2005
Posted by Derek at Wed Mar 16 21:40:43 2005
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